You can read the interview in two (2) ways:
1) the links below
-- OR --
2) the embedded magazine below
COVER
https://web.archive.org/web/20041114093738/http://www.aumag.org/
STORY https://web.archive.org/web/20041218031356/http://www.aumag.org/coverstory/October04cover.html
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